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c_meuer5d04 it’s not that you can’t have any or all of those you’ve listed but I see most of them as items I would eat after my meals if I was still hungry. Veg carbs are definitely minus the fibre so count them as net. If you fill up on net carb veggies you will be pretty full. Some people don’t count any veg carbs but all veg have some natural sugars so it’s your call. Research..... personal choice 🌸
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c_meuer5d04 it does but I was counting total carbs which you can easily do. I gave that up on counting veg as green leafy veg is vital. I eat it until satisfied, not worrying about it as I get full before exceeding 20g net carbs of it anyway. I’ve only 14lbs still to lose so more relaxed now.... listen to your body it’s been a totally new phenomenon for me.