Experiment in progress starting today !

5# down ( in 2 weeks yay!) and gonna call this Goal#1 accomplished w 3 more of these to go.

Today’s my hubby’s Bday and then we’ll have my daughter and her guy staying w us for 5 days. So many favorite foods and activities involved this week ! 

Therefore gonna “ go off keto” for these 6 days then go right back to my 16:8 Intermittent Fasting/ Keto Plan this coming Thursday 10/19. Watch me ha ha. !

Gonna aim for small portions, veggies, fish and oh yeah maybe there will be a few cool desserts and wine and beer. You know - we’re celebrating !

Will watch weight daily and try to stay within 2# up fm targeted success thus far. Not sure what I’ll do if goes up further. Hold my breath (!!)  maybe try to fast a day ... (BTW many fasting plans actually describe 500 cal in that day not 0)  ( 600 for males)

Main hope is that I won’t somehow change metabolically so that this Keto IF plan fails to work once back on it. Hoping not. I don’t think I’ll fail to get back on Plan next Thursday but will certainly check back here to be accountable - thanks for being here for that !

Any commentary appreciated ! You can yell at me that’s OK. I would love to see that we can take a break from social time to social time and find out just how to do that and get back on.

all best !

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    • yatesa12
    • yatesa12
    • 6 yrs ago
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    OK so here’s the drill for these next 6 days:

    1.  Eat “normally“ for me and us which is fish and vegie healthy stuff plus some 🍺 and just occasionally some extra treat or dessert. Celebration time for all of us for various things right now. Don’t want to draw attention to myself this way a big part of this for just these days ..

    2. Cut each prospective serving in half - either just on my plate or take  home 1/2 in box  

    3. Eat real slo-w-l-y, not mentioning just why. 

    4. Log everything that goes down right here in app, don’t count anything - it counts itself. Look at that later. 

    5. Choose healthiest foods i see to choose. 

    6. Weigh in every morning. As long as I stay 3# down from the start of this - or 2# up from goal I’ve reached, OK. If I drift over that x 2 days - then there will be Plan 2 for these few days. 

    So, y’all - any Thoughts on this? Advice? Encouragement ?  NaySay? -all’s OK ! Wd love to hear abt any of your experience trying such a thing !

    Thanks!

    PS - I will log in here each day to report ( I do love accountability). If I report only to myself, that still might be useful. If there’s a conversation to be had — even better !

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    • Joanna
    • Joanna
    • 6 yrs ago
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    You have a great plan for you, which I feel confident you will adhere to. I have to keep in mind you are very slim and this just wouldn’t work for me. I am highly susceptible to sugar & carbs so there’s not a chance I could do this & return, I have over 40’s years of success & failure to know myself by. I am not saying this as a downer on what you want to do but just as a reminder to others who are like me, that this lifestyle can’t be for us.

    Iam currently listening to an audio book, Bright Line Eating & Susan has confirmed what I already knew about myself. Another link generously shared was Mark Sisson who might help me to adjust my food choices after reaching goal.

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    • yatesa12
    • yatesa12
    • 6 yrs ago
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    Joanna 

    Thanks Joanna  ! So appreciate your response 😊. I do feel that so many on this site are dealing with a much bigger problem than I am here. Some real good science is finally starting to crack the surface of what’s really happened and continues to happen, causing this whole epidemic. I am so aware of the pain it causes in this world, how ridiculously unfair it is - just like all our other hateful and discriminatory social problems. And so honored actually to find myself in this group and hearing so much inner power, strength and generosity (!)

    For me personally, I do feel so much better at my actual goal here (keep these 5# down and then another 10). Although mostly a physical “high” I have to suspect that at least a part of this has got to do w succumbing to a nasty social pressure that’s been foisted on our gender as well. We all share that except the true genetic “ skinnies”. 

    I am thinking that it might be true in a broader sense that, ONCE AT GOAL and with these tools - (ketogenic or LCHF diet, intermittent fasting and maybe some further developments using these physio-metabolic concepts), AND these two markers of staying on track ( keto measures and daily weight, maybe some others will develop) it might well be possible for people to “take a break” for special times and get right back on what keeps them in best health metabolically.  

    I am at a real healthy goal for anybody  (midrange BMI) and this is many peoples’ goal, so maybe what I am doing can be a look ahead for some. 

    Regarding the addiction component, YES that’s huge. Maybe not as “bad” but can be huge for me as well. I have to stay way on one side of that or I’ll fall right in. 

    I’ll be careful and accountable here - still to report yesterday - (after scale this morning !)

    Thanks so much for your help here Joanna !

    Ati

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    • yatesa12
    • yatesa12
    • 6 yrs ago
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    OK Day 1:  

    Scale shows 1.8# up already ( fm 5# down) - Yeech !!!

    Bday dinner yesterday, plus extras. Didn’t actually overeat, but ate til tummy full -not just physiologically satisfied. Added chips, mimosa, double IPA, salsa, bugundy reduction.

    Have said will give any scale reading 2 days to believe and make changes from. 

    Today daughter arrives and double Bday dinner at our fav place in new digs planned for tonight  ...

    TODAY: Fast til at least 1 or 2pm . Try to stay on 16:8 IF.  If hungry, add MCT + lowest cal something to assuage if further needed. Slow Small Portions. Drink 1litre water +++ Tonight, try to eat real slowly enjoy it all but pay close attention to satiety, eat even slower then stop there.

    Wishing me luck !

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    • Joanna
    • Joanna
    • 6 yrs ago
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    yatesa12 boy you are one tough cookie 🙌 I would cave big time.

    Earlier, I certainly wasn’t intending my comment of ‘you are very slim’ to sound critical ~ it was more to explain to myself (& maybe newbies reading these posts oneday) that you are in a position to give yourself permission to experiment I can’t yet. I have head healing to do as well as goal to near.... we all have the free will to choose how we get there so I wouldn’t stomp on anyone doing things differently from me ~ not that I took anything negative from your reply... we could go on reassuring but this thread is about your accountability 😀

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    • yatesa12
    • yatesa12
    • 6 yrs ago
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    Joanna 

    ha ha you are wonderful - I actually liked  you’re saying I was slim just fine ! Thanks for sticking w me here - I do think what I’m doing is potentially something folks can do once they’re at goal. Or not. I am at that goal ( even if wanting to take further). Finding all this really intesting.

    I’m 64 and planning to work a few more years just to up our retirement funding further. And I’m a musician as well ( jazz vocal adding gtr) so don’t need a third career a bit since it would take time and focus from my music.  

    At the same time I would just love to do something for this issue in some way. Maybe write a book with you ha ha or some folks here or elsewhere. Maybe add myself to a primary care clinic as a weight loss consultant. Might just have to do that. This groups converations are having that effect on me no kidding. 

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    • yatesa12
    • yatesa12
    • 6 yrs ago
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    Day 2: 

    Scale still 1.8 up. If >2 up will Do Something Different 😋

    Fine Lunch plus Thai din last night. 1/2 an IPA  beer. No desserts or snacks. Hiked a bit, not much. 

    Ate slowly, not too much. Plenty water. Hubs and I split our meals which gives me lots of freedom to eat less. Ha ha - he takes care of the rest of it quite efficiently (!). 

    MCT coffee yesterday and no food til late ( big for me and here ) lunch around 2 pm. Also whipped up some tang flavored keto salt in water but didn’t finish it. 

    Will do same today. MCT coffee in the am. Eat w everyone as we go. Up to ski hill this morning ( nobody else skis so I won’t today but will hike around ) might probably swim laps as well. Big double Bday din tonight !

    wishin me luck staying under 2 over goal !

    A

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    • yatesa12
    • 6 yrs ago
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    Day 3:

    Scale inched up further yesterday to 3# up and this morning it is 4#up !!!!

    Wow on these ups and downs. 2 more days with daughter here, maybe 3. I think I will do something about this now - mostly just to witness cause/effect if goes that way. 

    Bkfst and dinner out and just had fun. Also hiked a bit and swim 30 minutes fast last night. Restaurant food but menu choices healthy over all plus 🍺 and lime juice gray goose vodkas. Not even desserts although did have my fav mimosa flight for Bkfst. 

    So again, my situation is a lot about metabolism it does seem. Normal BMI but really hard to drive down further to low normal ( trying to get BMI 22-23 to 20-21 here)

    Went back to Start up in this AP and did this —>

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    • yatesa12
    • 6 yrs ago
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    yatesa12 

    Did this on Getting Started:

    Chose “ Lose 2 “ for weekly goal, just to see if I can see a change next few days. (This is what I had before)

    Then “ LowCarb ModFat” while my daughter’s here. That’ll be 20%/40%/40% for % of total cals net carbs/pro/fats.  Not ketogenic but low carb and low cal given my “ Lose 2 “ goal.  So, a small shift from “Just have fun” ha ha 

    ( then might go to “Strict Ketogenic” (5%30%65% netcarbs/pro/fats)     for a few days, or just back to LowCarbHighFat (12%25%63%). 

    My experiment here is to see the effect of loosening up from LCHF or strict ketogenic from time to time for social fun and value if we have a metabolism more akin to ketogenic - I’m sure I do!).

    (My/our social value is that we are real foodies, love to cook but also in real purely organic non- toxic fish and vegie style plus a few whole grains — so any ketogenic change is not a change of bad habits. Ha ha maybe some would point out the beer and other imbibes, well yah OK !) 

    Can we do this and then quite easily get back in stride ?  We’ll see for me !

    I do think this is highly individual and most likely only possible once at goal or ideal weight per individual preference.  

    Would love to join up with others here who might be interested in this possibility.  

    😋

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    • yatesa12
    • yatesa12
    • 6 yrs ago
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    Temporary Getting Started Plan gives me 40net carbs, 80pro and 35 fat.  Obviously not LCHF !!!. I think I’ll try to get through the day on 5-8net carbs and save the rest for dinner tonight - or for anytime we eat together 😋

    And then  I think I’ll have to strict keto for a couple days at least. Wonder when I’ll test ++ again .... 

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  • yatesa12  It sounds like you are doing ok, you haven’t regained the 5 lbs! Remember that you are a healthy BMI and while watching what you eat, also have a good time with the celebrations without obsessing... you have a plan and sound prepared. You can get back to the straight and narrow when your daughter leaves! Great plan by the way, you’re doing great!

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    • yatesa12
    • 6 yrs ago
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    Thanks sherrijperry ! I’m enjoying not obsessing 😊.         Not only that .....

    Day 4:

    Scale today sez only 2# up fm goal achieved ! No longer 4 like yesterday ( go figure !).   ... at least no further gain 😇

    Will continue same today w 40-80-35gms net carbs, pro and fat. 

    And then tomorrow either strict keto or just back to LCHF and then onward .... 💃🏻💃🏻💃🏻💃🏻 !!!! 

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