Carb limit vs calorie intake
My app is currently recommending 15/73/91g (5/25/70%) with a 1200 cal budget, based on all of the inputs for Smart Macros and a goal of -2 lbs per week. One of the options I selected is sedentary, I have a desk job. I have my fitbit connected, and most week days will be around 0 net calories, but on weekends I am fully active doing yard work and adventuring with my family, I can easily come in -3500 calories. Is it allowable to increase my intake as long as I stick with 5/25/70% ratios and still under 0 calories? Or do I need to stick with the net gram amounts? EX: for 1200 cal the goal is 15/73/91, if I am hitting -3600 net calories (4x more calories burned than normal), does my budget on all macros increase 4x to 58/285/356? If the ratios are the critical point, I would expect the app to adjust the budgets based on your net calories in real time
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I have the same question about these macros. Low carb is one thing but it seems to me that the carb vs calories is way out of sync. I am told I need to eat 1656 calories but only have 21 carbs. If I eat those calories my carbs are over 100g, but if I eat those carbs my calories are under 600. Unless I want to be drinking oil everyone keeps talking about or eating spoonfuls of coconut oil (and even that won’t do it) there is just no way to eat enough calories and stay at or under the 21g of carbs using just food! 😠
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fastblnd8228 It is hard to get past a fear of fat. I usually have no problem as I enjoy butter on my veggies, mayonnaise or sour cream as a dipping sauce, full flavor salad dressings, dark meat chicken, ground chuck etc. While starting ketosis your body really needs that extra fat to switch to a fat burning machine, and after a short time you can reduce your fats a little. There really Is a lot of research out there.
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fastblnd8228 Actually that part can be pretty easy. Bacon, ground beef, avocado, fish, eggs, ranch/blue cheese dressing: all are excellent source of fat (calories) and/or protein, with low or no carbs. The "fat bombs" can be pretty tasty actually if you are low on fats at the end of the day. I would recommend a keto specific cook book for recipes to help you stay on goal. Here is the one I've been using:
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/1939754445/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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webbsark It sounds logical that I will still be on track if I always aim for 0 net calories by eating more on high activities days rather than being hungry. Now its whether those calories are strictly 0 extra grams of carbs, or 5% carbs. What I think the app really needs, is to adjust the day's macro budget in real time, based on your calories burned (when connected to Fitbit). It calculates my "maintain" budget as 2200 cal, and "lose 2" as 1200. With my Fitbit connected and burning 1200, my net usually hovers around 0, which is still a 1000 cal deficit. But on days I'm not working, I can come in with a 4000 to 6000 deficit. This math actually works out pretty close to the 16lbs I've lost in the last 3 weeks, which I'm not complaining about, I still feel healthy. It would just be nice to treat myself to some of the things I've been missing on those days, if I know it won't kick me out of ketosis
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webbsark I have no fear of fats. I have been eating the same thing each day for 14 days because I wanted to challenge what I was seeing. Here are the macro counts for this menu.
Me /Allowed
20g/21g Carbs
19g/30g Net Carbs
1g Fiber
124g/129g Fat
128g/104g Protein
1087/ 1656 Total Calories
With a Zero weight loss.
Now if I calculate by my BMR need 2119 calories daily at my current weight to not kill my metabolism. I should be eating 2151 total calories daily to lose 2lbs a week, but that is impossible with a 30g Net Carbs unless all you are doing is drinking that “oil” or eating nothing but fat bombs neither of which is remotely healthy or sustainable. That puts me at a 1064 calorie deficit each day instead of the 669 this app calculates. That kills my metabolism completely and seems to bypass Ketosis in favor of starvation mode. Hence the long periods of zero weight loss plateaus so many report having.
This is what leads me to believe that the numbers here are not calculated correctly.
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fastblnd8228 remember that carbs and proteins are 4 calories per gram whereas fats are 9 calories per gram. As far as calculators I prefer www.ruled.me Good luck in finding your sweet spot.
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fastblnd8228 I think this app is just a basic guide, and your fat to protein ratios seem very close together. For ketogenic , it is mostly about fats, protein to sustain if we go over turns to energy glucose. My body structure states to have about 70-80 grams protein and 120 or so of fats. I’m 5’6 but had about 29 pounds of body fat to take off. I have a moderate body frame and I am not petite. I had to tweak my wheel a it for awhile. Ketogenic is sustainable with the large fats and is health. I’m not sure where you got your information from but in the research I have done, yes. Fats are good. In large quantities. And eventually if you get through fat adaption your appetite decreases and you will find eating the fats enjoyable. I can’t do heavy oils like mct and all that but some say it helps them get through to fat adaption and beyond. It was hard for me to fathum putting butter and coconut oil in my coffee so I just use heavy cream, when I feel like it. Hang on there, you can do this.
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There is a medical doctor on YouTube by the name of KenDBerryMD who has a lot of really informative videos on keto. He says calories do not matter on a ketogenic diet. Now please don't jump on me about this. I'm just referring you to watch his videos. You can do a search in YouTube with kendberrymd calores and it will come up with this video title "Counting calories is stupid". Hope it helps you. Good luck on your journey.
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I am in the same predicament as fastblnd8228. I only managed to eat under 700 calories before my carbs were full at 16g. I did a workout and burned 630 calories. What will happen to my body? Is this safe? Today’s breakdown:
8% carb 24% protein 64% fat
I ate 1 egg, peameal bacon, tuna, steak, cauliflower rice, celery, yellow pepper, romaine lettuce, mayo (tuna wrap) coconut oil, walnuts. (Even went over to 22g)